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One of my... hobbies?... is finding words that look like they should be etymologically related but actually have completely different origins. In a few cases, like male and female, the similarity between them is actually the result of analogy; one of the words was remodeled to resemble the other out of, apparently, some feeling that they ought to sound similar. (Female was originally femelle.) In other cases, the similarity is apparently completely coincidental: pencil looks like it should be a diminutive of pen but isn't; can looks like it should be a truncation of canister but isn't. My favorite example is that even though bondage 'the condition of being bound' is transparently just bond 'that by which a thing is bound' plus a derivational suffix, they actually have completely unrelated origins. (In this case, though, the similarity in meaning may actually have been influenced by the similarity in sound.)

There's also a few well-known classic cases of words in different languages that have the same meaning and similar or identical sounds: English much and Spanish mucho, German haben and Latin habeo, English bad and Persian bad, English dog and Mbarabam dog. These are habitually trotted out in Ling 1 or Intro to Historical Ling classes to get across the idea that just having the same sound and meaning isn't enough to establish that words in two languages are cognates: English and Mbarabam obviously aren't even related to each other, and in the other cases the languages are related but the words don't exhibit the sound correspondences that are characteristic of the histories of those languages. (For instance, real cognates of Latin words that begin with h actually begin with g in German, like hortus and Garten.)

But I have a new favorite pair of unrelated words that do obey the sound correspondence. So, Latin s regularly corresponds to Greek h, as in Latin sex and Greek hex 'six', or Latin super and Greek hyper 'over'. The Latin word for 'sweat' is sudor. By regular sound correspondences, the Greek cognate of sudor should be hydor—which just happens to be the Greek word for 'water'. And yet there is no etymological relationship between these two words!

Date: 2011-09-07 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] q10.livejournal.com
this is one of those cases where i want a ‘like’ button.

Date: 2011-09-07 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miraclaire.livejournal.com
Ravelry (a knitter's social network thingy) has a bunch of buttons you can click for any forum post: Educational, Interesting, Funny, Agree, Disagree, and Love. I definitely want the first two for this post!

Date: 2011-09-07 05:54 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-09-07 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] occultatio.livejournal.com
Speaking as someone in a Ling 1 course right now: this is fascinating, and can you go into greater depth about the coincidences in the first paragraph?

Date: 2011-09-07 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] occultatio.livejournal.com
Neat, thank you!

I'm in three online classes through community colleges this semester, in a drive to finally complete the requirements for my English teaching license. American Lit 1 is incredibly dumb, but in exactly the way you would expect a community college course to be dumb (e.g., on a short research paper, the professor actively corrected my dates to say "September 2" instead of "2nd"). Intro to Public Speaking is... it's own series of livejournal posts. But the Intro to Linguistics class is really good, for the context! I like the book a lot, the assignments are both reasonable and rational, and the other students appear to have ever taken a college class before! So, yeah. I've just started the chapter on syntax.

Date: 2011-09-08 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] occultatio.livejournal.com
An Introduction to Language, whatever the most recent edition is. Keep in mind that I don't know whether it's simplifying things that would horrify you; all I can say is that I find it enjoyable to read.

Date: 2011-09-08 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-codfish.livejournal.com
Hey, don't leave us hanging on that last one! The dictionaries I checked trace "chair" back to Greek "kathedra" via French (seriously, what is it about French that makes everything lose its consonants?!) and "sit" back to old German (cf. modern German "setzen"). I'm guessing you're saying that "kathedra" stems from the same IE root as the German word, plus an added prefix and suffix, but... care to elucidate?

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